What Should The New York Giants Do If They Miss Out On Justin Herbert?

New York Giants, Justin Herbert

With the general assumption that New York Giants‘ veteran quarterback Eli Manning will take his talents into retirement at the end of the 2018 season, it’s only fair to begin looking into potential passer options for 2019. One of the more talented prospects is Oregon’s Justin Herbert.

Herbert has been compared to Buffalo Bills’ Josh Allen, but significantly more accurate with the football in his hands. His ability to buy time and find open receivers is special, and he would offer a shiny new toy for head coach Pat Shurmur. An already talented quarterback that he can mold and develop to his liking.

But, this begs the questions: 

What if the New York Giants miss out on Justin Herbert all-together?

The NFL Draft is like a game of chess. You only know your move, but your opposition can counter your expected action based on where your pieces are and the resources you have on the board. Think of it like this: The game is the draft, the pieces are the draft picks, and the player is the war room.

If the Giants fail to land the top QB prospect, they might be better off skipping out on a passer overall. Putting their faith in current rookie Kyle Lauletta might not be the best move, but bringing on a veteran like Teddy Bridgewater could be an acceptable alternative. We will likely see Lauletta perform toward the end of the season which should give us an idea on if he can be the future of the Giants.

Who could the Giants look to if they decide against taking a quarterback in the 2019 NFL draft?

With the expectancy that the Giants will land in the top 5 picks overall, they should certainly consider going with either and offensive or a defensive lineman. Players like Nick Bosa and Ed Oliver offer immense quality and All-Pro potential. Nick is supposedly an even better prospect than his older brother Joey Bosa.

Nick Bosa (Ohio State) profile:

The Ohio State standout has immense size, standing at 6-foot-4, 263 pounds. Believe it or not, Bosa has room for growth, and his speed off the line won’t be affected. His strength is unparalleled despite a core muscle injury that forced him to leave the Buckeye’s defense and prepare for the NFL draft.

He racked up 17.5 sacks in two years at Ohio, proving to be extremely productive in his time as a starter. His older brother, Joey, stated that Nick is far ahead of where he was at that stage of his career. Bosa would offer the Giants a premier pass-rusher that would revolutionize a defensive line that lacks pass-rushing capabilities. He’s also stellar in the run game and would immediately influence a unit that has struggled consistently this season.

Max Sharping (Northern Illinois) profile:

One of the lesser talked about prospects is offensive tackle Max Scharping. If the Giants decided to take a flier on the tackle, they would offer their future quarterback better protection and more time in the pocket. Scharping ranking third in pass-blocking in 2015 (97.1), first in 2016 (98.9), and first again in 2017, according to PFF.

Over 459 snaps in ’17, Scharping allowed just four pressures in pass-protection. Throughout his entire career, he’s allowed just 21 QB pressures across 1,377 pass-blocking snaps. If you aren’t convinced he can be a stellar player in the NFL, he hasn’t allowed a sack since 2015 in the Huskies bowl game against Boise State. If the Giants aren’t keen on signing a player like Carolina Panthers’ Daryl Williams in free agency, Scharping would be one hell of an upgrade at the right tackle position.

 

Why New York Giants Fans Shouldn’t Be Hoping For Tank Season

New York Giants, Odell Beckham Jr.

New York Giants fans have been fortunate enough to witness a multitude of miracles go their team’s way during the franchise’s long history. From Norwood’s wide right kick to hand Super Bowl XXV to the Giants, to “The Helmet Catch” in Super Bowl XLII, and Manningham’s miraculous reception down the left sideline in Super Bowl XLVI; the Giants have been on the right side of many of the NFL’s greatest miracles.

But, what could be the greatest miracle of them all is one that ‘could’ happen this season. To call it a pipe dream is an understatement, but that’s why it would be a miracle.

This miracle would be if the 1-7 Giants came back and won their final eight games to slip into the playoffs at 9-7. And as all Giants fans know, once you’re in the playoffs, anything can happen. As Odell Beckham Jr. said, the last time the Giants went to the playoffs at 9-7, they did “pretty good.” No team has ever been able to accomplish something like this. According to NFL’s Next Gen Stats, the 1-7 Giants had a 1% chance of making the playoffs (prior to Monday night’s win in San Francisco). How could Giants fans not root for their team to defy all odds and make the playoffs with a 1% chance?

The Sinking Draft Stock Of The 2019 Quarterback Class:

Giants fans all over twitter have been crying out for a quarterback change to take place this season or the next. Some fans have even created a few slogans in favor of the Giants drafting Oregon’s Justin Herbert, such as: “suck for the duck,” “just lose for Justin,” and “hurtin’ for Herbert.”

These slogans are all very cute, however, it is rumored that Justin Herbert might not even declare for the 2019 draft. On top of that, his draft stock has gone down in October and November, according to CBS Sports. CBS Sports now has him ranked as the third best quarterback prospect in this draft class, behind Drew Lock and Ryan Finley.

All three of these prospects (Herbert, Lock, and Finley) have potential, but none of them have been able to prove themselves to be a “can’t miss” prospect. The Giants could potentially draft a quarterback with the, 16th, 28th, or even the 32nd pick who seemingly has the same amount of talent and potential as a player selected with a top ten pick.

The Chemistry For The Future:

The New York Giants’ players have two options: they can play their hardest together and try to win every game possible, or they can simply give up. Good luck trying to convince a competitor like Odell Beckham Jr. to give up mid-season. If half the locker room decides to give up and the other half decides to play like they’re in the playoffs, this would cause a huge division in the locker room.

This division would destroy the team’s chemistry. The 2017 season should give us a basis for how a coach ‘shouldn’t’ manage a locker room. Moving forward, having a well balanced team is essential for success, and in times of adversity the leaders on the team must come together and promote a positive vision for the future. Establishing a motive for success will be the goal after every game, especially if the Giants lose.

What Should The New York Giants Do At Quarterback In 2019?

Eli Manning may have just pulled off his 36th career game-winning drive in San Francisco on Monday night, but there are a few undeniable truths that the Giants fan-base and organization need to recognize and consider:

  1. Manning is 37 years old and will be 38 at the start of the 2019-2020 season.
  2. Manning’s quality of play has declined over the past few seasons.
  3. The Giants are 5-20 over the past two seasons.
  4. Cutting Eli Manning this offseason will save the Giants $17 million in cap space, according to Over the Cap.
  5. The Giants do not have an heir apparent at the quarterback position.

With that being said, what options do the Giants have?

Current New York Giants Quarterbacks:

Eli Manning: Despite his declining and consistently lackluster play over the past two seasons, there are a few reasons why the Giants might want to keep Eli Manning in 2019. For one, he is a Giants legend and they may fear facing fan-base backlash from cutting him, similar to the back lash they faced when benching him last season. Letting him play an extra year gives him the chance to retire and go out with a season long send-off.

Furthermore, if they do decide to draft a quarterback this year, they could sit him behind Manning for a year and let him learn from the veteran, similar to what Kansas City did with Patrick Mahomes. In addition to this, it can be argued that Manning is not playing as bad as the media says he is.

Manning’s completion percentage this season is the highest it has ever been at 67.6 percent, he is ninth in the league in passing yards so far this season, and he has been sacked a league high 32 times. These statistics can draw a few key conclusions.

First off, the Giants have an awful offensive line and it would be difficult for any quarterback to play behind it. Secondly, Manning has shown that he is capable of playing well when given time in the pocket. Finally, Eli’s 11 touchdowns in 9 games but 2,565 yards demonstrates that he and the Giants offense are good until they get into the red zone. This can be attributed to player execution and even coach Shurmur’s play calling.

Kyle Lauletta: Giants fans are eager to see what the team has in the 4th round rookie out of Richmond, but he has yet to even be activated for a regular season game. Coach Shurmur should definitely look to see what the team has in Lauletta sometime this season with some regular season playing time. However, his recent arrest and Eli’s magical win against the 49ers might delay the Kyle Lauletta show.

If he gets to play this season, the team can assess him and plan ahead accordingly. Best case scenario: they hit big-time on a 4th round quarterback and found their heir apparent. Worst case scenario: Lauletta has a maximum potential that most would expect out of a 4th round quarterback and he ends up being a backup for the future. The only way for the Giants to know the answer is to give Lauletta a chance in the 2018 season.

Current NFL, Non-Giants Quarterbacks:

Teddy Bridgewater: The 2014 first round pick out of Louisville for the Minnesota Vikings has had a rocky career. In his rookie season, Bridgewater showed great potential and won the Pepsi Rookie of the Year award. In his sophomore season, Bridgewater progressed further and was selected to his first pro bowl. At this point, it looked like there was a promising career ahead for the young quarterback, until he suffered a devastating knee injury that would sideline him all of 2016.

In 2017, Bridgewater still was not healthy enough to be a starter again, but he managed to remain on the roster. In the 2018 offseason, Bridgewater signed a one-year deal with the New York Jets, played well in the preseason (one might even say well enough to start for another franchise with a 73.7% completion percentage and 104.7 QBR), but was then traded to the New Orleans Saints to backup Drew Brees.

Teddy Bridgewater will be a free agent again this offseason, and he is expected to draw interest from around the league if he is not retained by New Orleans. Being that he is a former Minnesota quarterback, Bridgewater has a connection with Giants head coach Pat Shurmur, former offensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings. Shurmur is familiar with Bridgewater and knows his potential.

If the Giants are willing to cut ties with Manning, Bridgewater could be a great developmental option for the Giants if they feel like they can maximize his potential. Additionally, signing Bridgewater does not mean that he needs to be the future of the Giants. Theoretically, they could sign him the same way that the Jets did, if he agrees to it. The Giants could try to get Bridgewater on a one-year deal and draft a quarterback, just like the Jets did.

Derek Carr: Raiders coach Jon Gruden began a fire sale in Oakland during the 2018 season, trading away Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper. According to Oakland’s general manager, Reggie McKenzie, no one is untouchable. That would seemingly include Carr. Derek Carr has been selected to a pro bowl each of the last three seasons and he lead his team to a 12-3 season before breaking his leg in 2016, a season in which he was an MVP candidate.

However, this season Carr has looked like somewhat of a shell of his former self. The former gunslinger now settles for countless check downs, as documented by NFL Next Gen Stats’s passing charts, and has a 10 to 8 touchdown to interception ratio through nine games.

This begs the question: what happened to Derek Carr in 2018? These issues could be attributed to his putrid offensive line, a lack of weapons, a fear of reinjuring himself, or the new coaching staff. These issues could potentially all be solved with a change of scenery for Carr, and that could just bring him back to his 2016 playing level.

If the Raiders end up with the first pick and decide to move on from Carr, they could select Herbert and put Carr on the trading block. If that happens, the Giants would need to consider trading for Carr, since Herbert would no longer be an option. The trade would be costly (potentially one first, one second, or maybe even two first round draft picks) but if the Giants are confident they could get Carr back to playing to his full potential, they should make the move and acquire the three time pro-bowler.

College Quarterbacks

2019 Draft Class: Last year’s draft class was considerably loaded. This upcoming year’s class? Not so much. The consensus for the top signal-caller of the 2019 class is Oregon’s Justin Herbert (and there are rumors that he might not even declare this year).

It is also well-documented that the Giants are heavily interested in Herbert. They have attended six of his ten games so far this season. He’s a big body, strong arm quarterback with a good personality. He’s had a good, but inconsistent junior year, thus far. He has games with a completion percentage as high as 78% and as low as 47%, so there is still much work to be done with consistency if he wants to be a star in this league. His 25 touchdowns and 2,621 passing yards in ten games are impressive, however, his accuracy can be inconsistent (as displayed in the Oregon vs. Arizona game in October).

Even with his high ceiling, when compared to the 2018 class, it would be hard to rank Herbert inside the top three prospects. Mayfield, Darnold, and Rosen would likely all rank higher than Herbert if they were a part of the same draft class. That being said, he could be a franchise quarterback with some development, but he’s not as close to a “sure-thing” as anyone in the 2018 draft class.

Other notable quarterbacks in the 2019 draft class include Will Grier (West Virginia), Drew Lock (Missouri), Dwayne Haskins (Ohio State), and Daniel Jones (Duke). All of these players have potential to be first and second round quarterbacks and, with the right development, maybe even starting quarterbacks in the NFL. However, none of these guys are considered to have the same potential as the 2018 draft class by sources such as Pro Football Focus and Bleacher Report.

2020 Draft Class:

A lot of fans believe that Monday night’s win has ruined New York’s chances at the top pick in 2019 and, subsequently, their chances at drafting Justin Herbert. If that is the case and the Giants are unable to secure the Oregon quarterback, they might look to trade back, accumulate more picks, and draft someone from the 2020 draft class. 2019 Heisman candidate Tua Tagovailoa has been lighting it up in his sophomore year for Alabama, drawing comparisons to Russel Wilson. He will be every quarterback-needy team’s dream choice in 2020 and, with an accumulation of picks from trading down in 2019, the Giants could possibly have the first pick, or enough draft capital to move up to the first pick and select Tua Tagovailoa.

The Giants have tons of options for their future at quarterback. Being that they have so many options, it is too soon to say that passing on a quarterback for Saquon Barkley in 2018 was a mistake. After all, Saquon Barkley truly has hall of fame potential. Could this have been New York’s plan all along? Draft Barkley and secure a quarterback the following season? Possibly. Time will only tell. The New York Giants need to make the right decision this offseason in order to avoid what general manager Dave Gettleman would consider to be “quarterback hell.”

New York Giants Brass Heavily Investing Time In QB Justin Herbert

If you haven’t heard the name Justin Herbert, you might want to begin familiarizing yourself with it. Herbert is a college quarterback that has been a heavy target for the New York Giants this season, as they continue investing time and effort in his scouting.

The Oregon quarterback has the size of Josh Allen and the throwing ability of Josh Rosen. The primary question is: Will he commit to the NFL draft after reports stated he might want to stay one more year to play with his younger brother? 

Personally, I believe he will commit, why? Because he would be the top quarterback option in the draft, maximizing his monetary compensation – additionally, he would have the chance to feature on a Giants time composed of Odell Beckham Jr. and Saquon Barkley.

For a college passer to go from a team with no play-makers, to one with more than he’s ever seen, you can consider that a dream come true.

At 1-7 on the year, the Giants currently hold the 1st overall pick ahead of the Oakland Raiders. It’s possible the Raiders are interested in the passer but Derek Carr surely complicates those plans.

How have the New York Giants allocated resourced towards Justin Herbert?

General manager Dave Gettleman has been present for three of Herbert’s games this season, where he’s played well despite a lack of support. By doing this, he in terms raises the value of a quarterback for other teams in the market. If the Giants are high on a quarterback that might be the top prospect in the draft, it will require a kings ransom to trade up to acquire him.

What’s so great about Herbert?

The Ducks signal caller is simply a fantastic athlete. He can operate in the play-action and extend plays with his legs. Additionally, he has incredible mobility in the pocket which will be essential in a pass-rush heavy NFL. One of his more underrated attributes is his arm strength. He can put immense zip on balls and shoot passes through tight windows. Anticipation is another impressive characteristic Herbert acquires. He can throw his receivers open when pressure is closing in. Herbert can be reckless with the ball, as he’s thrown five interceptions in five straight games, but this can be coughed up to his risk-taking nature. With a little refinement and timing work he can eradicate those mistakes and turn them into big gains.

 

Justin Herbert Watch: Giants QB Target Has Worst Game In Arizona

Justin Herbert might be the future of the New York Giants, but the quarterback had his worst game of the year on Saturday when the Oregon Ducks faced the Arizona Wildcats. The game was the second straight loss for an Oregon team that has fallen out of contention for the PAC-12 after starting off in the mix, and there’s one question that NFL fans will want to ask after the result: how much of the blame here is on Herbert?

First and foremost, the blame will be on the Oregon defense. They allowed 44 points and even with a good game from the quarterback, getting a win under those circumstances is a tall task. On the other hand, it’s important to note that Oregon only scored 15, and that just doesn’t cut it. Especially for a team that prides itself in offense and has a potential number one overall NFL draft pick at quarterback.

Herbert threw 48 passes, which is the most he’s thrown this season and surpasses the 44 that he threw against Washington State. You may notice a trend here, of Oregon throwing the ball more and losing games. It might be a bit concerning to next level scouts, but the larger problem is a decline in completion percentage over the past games.

Against Stanford and California, Herbert completed 78% and 72% of his passes respectively, but this stayed at 56% for the next two games and then fell to an even 50% against Arizona. It’s also worth noting that Herbert threw his first interception since the Stanford game, when he rolled out of the pocket while standing at his own end zone and firing the ball deep down the field where it was intercepted when the pass was short of the receiver.

Overall, Herbert had 186 yards through the air, which is less than he’s had in any previous game this season. He did throw two touchdowns, to his credit, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is undoubtedly the worst game of the year for the quarterback that might just go number one overall during next year’s NFL Draft.

Herbert is almost certainly on the draft board of the New York Giants, but it might not be wise to just assume that they’ll draft him. After all, there’s still some games left to be played, and while every quarterback has bad games from time to time, there’s some worrying trends showing up for Herbert right now and the last games of the season could be make or break for him.

New York Giants Quarterback Target Herbert Shows Off Elite Skills

The season isn’t close to over at this point, but New York Giants fans are already looking to the NFL Draft because of the team’s early collapse. Specifically, fans are looking to the draft for a quarterback, with Eli Manning struggling recently. It looks like the Giants will take a quarterback, and if they do decide to go that route, Justin Herbert is the one that’s their consensus top target.

Herbert is expected to be the number one pick in the draft, but with the way that the Giants have been playing this season, it wouldn’t be surprising in the least if they found themselves in that spot. Additionally, if they’re drafting in the top five, a trade to number one wouldn’t be out of the question. What has Herbert done to justify the hype, though?

Well, the Oregon Ducks just played one of the top teams in the country, and Herbert threw for two of the touchdowns and, despite not putting up big numbers, managed the game well and didn’t fall on the big stage. The performance came against a Washington team that was hailed as the best in the PAC-12 Conference going into this game. Now, though, those rankings have changed. And Herbert is one of the players who had a large role in that.

His best plays weren’t just quick completions on bubble plays and slant routes, either. For his second touchdown of the day, Herbert rolled out while under pressure and rifled the ball into a tight area near the corner of the end zone, ensuring that only his receiver would be able to make the catch despite the area being covered. It was a risky play, but of course, the result was an Oregon touchdown.

It’s the kind of play that Sam Darnold was praised for before he was drafted by the New York Jets, but Herbert and Darnold aren’t the same player, even if they’ll likely both end up being the first quarterbacks selected in their respective draft classes. It looks like Herbert is going to throw for more touchdowns and less interceptions. You could make an argument that he’s the stronger, more polished prospect compared to Darnold coming out of USC.

We still have some more of Herbert to see, this season. About half the schedule remains, but the hardest games are out of the way and even in the sole loss of the season, which came at the hands of Stanford, Herbert threw for 346 yards and a touchdown. His draft stock is already high, going into the final stretch. Strong performances against struggling teams such as Arizona and UCLA would do a good job to keep that stock at where it is right now, preventing Herbert from being overtaken in the rankings by someone like Missouri quarterback Drew Lock.

The New York Giants aren’t in a good place right now. But if they do end up with the number one pick, there’s a silver lining. The decision to wait on drafting a quarterback was a controversial one, but it’s hard to complain about if it results in getting a quarterback this year that’s better than the ones that were drafted high following the Giants’ selection of Saquon Barkley.